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ON THE NEXT "NEWS HOUR" -- WHAT THE LATEST ROUND OF PRIMARY VOTING INDICATES ABOUT THE UPCOMING NOVEMBER ELECTION.
THAT’S WEDNESDAY ON THE "PBS NEWS HOUR."
GEOFF: I’M GEOFF BENNETT.
TONIGHT ON THE "NEWS HOUR" -- ABC SUES THE FCC ON FIRST AMENDMENT GROUNDS AS PART OF THE DISPUTE INVOLVING LATE-NIGHT HOST JIMMY KIMMEL.
THAT’S AT 7:00 AFTER "EVENING EDITION" ON KPBS.
♪ AMNA: GOOD EVENING.
I’M AMNA NAWAZ.
GEOFF: AND I’M GEOFF BENNETT.
ON THE "NEWS HOUR" TONIGHT -- ABC SUES THE FCC, CLAIMING THE AGENCY IS INFRINGING ITS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AS PART OF THE DISPUTE INVOLVING LATE-NIGHT HOST JIMMY KIMMEL.
AMNA: IN PRIMARIES ACROSS SEVERAL STATES TODAY, ELECTION DENIERS CONTINUE THEIR RUNS FOR OFFICE.
GEOFF: AND -- THE NEW WAYS SCIENTISTS ARE TRYING TO TARGET MOSQUITOES AND CONTROL THE SPREAD OF DISEASE.
>> THIS IS A NATURALLY OCCURRING BACTERIUM.
WE’RE JUST MOVING THE BACTERIUM FROM ONE MOSQUITO TO ANOTHER.
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BNSF, THE ENGINE THAT CONNECTS US.
♪ >> OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND INSTITUTIONS.
AND FRIENDS OF THE NEWS HOUR INCLUDING KATHY AND PAUL ANDERSON AND CAMILLA AND GEORGE SMITH.
>> AND WITH THE ONGOING SUPPORT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND INSTITUTIONS.
♪ ♪ ♪ >> THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU.
THANK YOU.
♪ GEOFF: WELCOME TO THE "NEWS HOUR."
THE TELEVISION NETWORK ABC TODAY SUED THE FCC, ARGUING THE AGENCY IS WAGING A RETALIATORY CAMPAIGN OF CENSORSHIP AGAINST THE BROADCAST NETWORK, VIOLATING ITS RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH.
AMNA: IN THE UNPRECEDENTED SUIT, ABC SAYS THE COMMISSION HAS WIELDED ITS REGULATORY POWER TO PUNISH AND PRESSURE THE BROADCAST COMPANY THROUGH INVESTIGATIONS AND, MORE RECENTLY, THREATS TO STRIP LOCAL STATIONS OF THEIR BROADCAST LICENSES.
THE MOVE IS A MAJOR ESCALATION IN A LONG-SIMMERING FEUD BETWEEN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, ABC, AND ITS PARENT COMPANY, THE WALT DISNEY CORPORATION.
THE FCC IS CURRENTLY COMPRISED OF THREE COMMISSIONERS, CHAIRMAN BRENDAN CARR, OLIVIA TRUSTY APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP, AND ANNA GOMEZ APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT BIDEN IN 2023.
COMMISSIONER GOMEZ JOINS US NOW.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
AMNA: THE SUIT POINTS TOY DECISION REQUIRING EIGHT DISNEY OWNS LOCAL NEWS STATIONS TO A NEW THEIR BROADCAST LICENSES IN SOME CASES YEARS BEFORE THEY ARE SET TO EXPIRE.
FOR CONTEXT, HOW COMMON IS IT FOR THE FCC TO TAKE THAT KIND OF STEP?
>> IT IS EXTREMELY UNPRECEDENTED.
NEVER HAS THE FCC GONE AFTER NETWORK CONTENT BY TARGETING ALL OF ITS LOCAL BROADCAST STATIONS AND IT HAS BEEN OVER HALF A CENTURY SINCE THE FCC CALLED IN ANY LICENSE FOR EARLY RENEWAL.
AMNA: IN A STATEMENT, THE FCC SAYS IT HAS BEEN EXAMINING CLAIMS DISNEY ENGAGED IN WHAT IT CALLS ILLEGAL D.E.I.
DISCRIMINATION FOR OVER A YEAR.
CHAIRMAN CARR TOLD REUTERS TODAY HE THINKS DISNEY WENT TO COURT TO TRY TO STOP THIS PROCEEDING BECAUSE HE SAID DISNEY IS NERVOUS.
HE SAID DISNEY SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE RECORD IS SHOWING.
ABC SAYS THEY HAVE HANDED OVER THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTS ALREADY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS INVESTIGATION.
HAVE YOU IN YOUR ROLE SEEN THOSE?
DO YOU BELIEVE THERE IS ANY EVIDENCE DISNEY IS NERVOUS ABOUT WHAT THOSE DOCUMENTS SHOW?
>> NO ONE BELIEVES THIS IS ABOUT DISNEY’S DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION POLICIES.
CLEARLY THIS IS A PRETEXT TO GO AFTER DISNEY BECAUSE THIS ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT LIKE THE CONTENT IT IS SEEING ON DISNEY AND DISNEY HAS REFUSED TO BOW TO THE INTIMIDATION AND THE PRESSURE.
I’M VERY HEARTENED TO SEE DISNEY STAND UP FOR ITS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND ITS EDITORIAL DECISIONS AND FILING TO CHALLENGE THE ACTIONS THE FCC HAS TAKEN.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE FCC IS NOT THE EEOC.
THE FCC HAS LOST PREVIOUSLY IN COURT WHERE IT WAS TOLD THE FCC IS NOT THE EEOC AND LICENSE RENEWALS ARE NOT PROCEEDINGS THAT CAN CHALLENGE TITLE 7 RIGHTS.
SO THE FCC IS OUTSIDE OF ITS REMIT WITH THIS PRETEXT, BUT IT IS CLEARLY ABOUT THE CONTENT OF DISNEY’S AND ABC’S PROGRAMS, NOT ABOUT THIS INVESTIGATION.
AMNA: THERE IS A SEPARATE PROBE INTO THE ABC DAYTIME TALK SHOW "THE VIEW."
CHAIRMAN CARR WAS ASKED IN AN INTERVIEW ON FOXBUSINESS LATE LAST MONTH.
TAKE A LESSON.
>> NEW BROADCASTERS GET SUBSIDIZED ACCESS, FREE ACCESS TO A VALUABLE PUBLIC RESOURCE, THE AIRWAVES, WORTH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
IN EXCHANGE, YOU HAVE TO OPERATE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST, YOU CAN RUN NEWS DISTORTIONS, YOU CAN’T BE ENGAGING IN THIS FORM OF D.E.I.
DISCRIMINATION.
THE FCC IS ENFORCING RULES THAT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AMNA: COMMISSIONER GOMEZ, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE ARGUMENT THAT BROADCASTERS ARE NOT OPERATING IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY BROADCAST.
>> THE FCC CANNOT TARGET CONTENT BASED ON THIS NEBULOUS PUBLIC INTEREST STANDARD.
THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR THE FCC TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN WHETHER THE BROADCASTERS ARE SERVING THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
YOU SERVE YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES WHEN YOU HAVE WEATHER, SPORTS, WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BREAKING NEWS.
THAT IS SERVING LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THIS ADMINISTRATION IS BANDYING ABOUT THE TERM PUBLIC INTEREST IS THEY BASICALLY USE IT TO MEAN ANYTHING THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN’T LIKE.
WE ARE BOUND BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND BY THE CONSTITUTION.
THERE IS NO GENERALIZED EXEMPTION TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE A BROADCAST LICENSEE.
AMNA: THE FCC IN DIFFERENT FORMS IS LOOKING INTO A NUMBER OF NETWORKS, CBS, ABC, NBC, NOTABLY NOT INTO FOX.
CHAIRMAN CARR HAS SENT A LETTER TO THE BBC ABOUT ITS EDITING OF A TRUMP SPEECH.
FULL DISCLOSURE, THE FCC OPENED A PROBE INTO NPR, PBS, AND SOME MEMBER STATIONS ALLEGING THEY MIGHT BE AIRINGS PROHIBITED COMMERCIAL ADS.
PBS INSISTS THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
THE FACT THAT ABC IS NOW SUING THE FCC AFTER EARLIER SETTLING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION FOR SOME $15 MILLION, DOES THIS SIGNAL TO YOU A CHANGE IN TACTICS OR A CHANGE IN THE LANDSCAPE?
WHY NOW?
>> I THINK WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED WATCHING THIS ADMINISTRATION OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF IS YOU CANNOT BUY PEACE FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION, YOU ONLY BY TIME.
THIS ADMINISTRATION DEMANDS THAT THERE BE NO CRITICS AND IT WILL KEEP COMING BACK AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE SEEN.
SO I’M VERY GLAD DISNEY HAS FOUND ITS COURAGE AND IT SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING TO ALL OTHER BROADCASTERS NOT TO CAVE TO THE PRESSURE BUT SUPPORT THE FIRST AMENDMENT’S GEOFF: COMMISSIONER GOMEZ, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, WE APPRECIATE IT.
♪ AMNA: IN THE DAYS OTHER HEADLINES, A FEDERAL TRIAL AGAINST METTA KICKED OFF TODAY LANG OF THE CASE THAT THE COMPANY PLATFORMS HARM CHILDREN.
IN THEIR OPENING STATEMENTS, CALIFORNIA, COLORADO, KENTUCKY, AND NEW JERSEY ACCUSED META OF INTENTIONALLY "HOOKING" USERS TO ’HARVEST THEIR DATA."
META DENIES ANY WRONGDOING AND SAYS IT HAS SAFEGUARDS TO PROTECT YOUNG USERS.
BUT OUTSIDE THE COURT, PARENTS BLAMED THE COMPANY FOR HARMING THEIR CHILDREN.
ONE MOTHER SPOKE ABOUT HER DAUGHTER, COCO, WHO STARTED USING INSTAGRAM WHEN SHE WAS 12 AND LATER DIED AT 17 OF AN OVERDOSE WITH DRUGS BOUGHT ON THE PLATFORM.
>> BY HER TEENS, SHE COULD NOT LOOK AWAY.
THE SCROLLING BECAME DEPRESSION, THEN ANXIETY SHE COULD NOT ESCAPE.
GEOFF: THE STATES ARE SEEKING A FINANCIAL PENALTY AS HIGH AS $1.4 TRILLION AND CHANGES TO HOW META OPERATES ITS PLATFORMS.
25 OTHER STATES ARE ALSO SUING THE COMPANY.
THOSE TRIALS WILL BEGIN AT A LATER DATE.
IN HAWAII, CREWS ARE WORKING TO CLEAR ROADS AND RESTORE POWER TO TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE WAKE OF HURRICANE LALA.
THE STORM UPROOTED TREES AND CAUSED FLASH FLOODS FROM HONOLULU TO THE BIG ISLAND THIS PAST WEEKEND.
OFFICIALS HAVE ANNOUNCED ONE FATALITY, A 90-YEAR-OLD WOMAN.
THE STATE’S GOVERNOR SAYS THE DAMAGE, AS HE PUT IT, "COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE."
MEANTIME, PARTS OF INDIANA ARE STILL REELING FROM CATASTROPHIC FLOODING THAT’S SUBMERGED ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS.
IN INDIANAPOLIS, FLOODWATER HAS FINALLY RECEDED ENOUGH FOR SOME FAMILIES TO RETRIEVE BELONGINGS FROM THEIR HOMES.
OTHERS HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
OLIVER: GOT THIS JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND NOW IT’S NOT LIVABLE, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW.
NO ONE WAS GONNA TAKE IT FROM ME, EXCEPT FOR, APPARENTLY, MOTHER NATURE.
[LAUGHTER] GEOFF: AUTHORITIES SAY SOME INFRASTRUCTURE WILL TAKE MONTHS TO REPAIR, WITH ROADS AND BRIDGES WASHED OUT ENTIRELY.
ALSO TODAY, NEARLY 100 MILLION AMERICANS ACROSS MUCH OF THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST WERE UNDER HEAT ALERTS, WITH TRIPLE-DIGIT HIGHS FROM TEXAS TO THE CAROLINAS THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK.
TURNING NOW TO THE WAR IN IRAN, PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THERE ARE NO TALKS TAKING PLACE BETWEEN THE U.S.
AND IRAN AND NONE ARE SCHEDULED.
ON HIS SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM, THE PRESIDENT ADDED THE U.S.
BLOCKADE OF THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ IS IN "FULL FORCE AND EFFECT," AND THE STRAIT IS "OPEN AND OPERATING."
BUT THAT CONTRADICTED REMARKS FROM IRAN’S TOP NEGOTIATOR, WHO TODAY SAID THE STRAIT WILL REMAIN CLOSED.
>> LET ME BE CLEAR -- UNTIL THE UNITED STATES FULFILLS ITS COMMITMENTS UNDER THE AGREEMENT, INCLUDING LIFTING THE BLOCKADE, RELEASING FROZEN ASSETS, LIFTING OIL SANCTIONS, ENDING THREATS, AND MILITARY OPERATIONS ON ALL FRONTS, THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ WILL NOT REOPEN.
GEOFF: MEANTIME, OFFICIALS IN QATAR SAID AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN IRAN AND OMAN OVER THE WATERWAY WOULD, QUOTE, "MAKE IT MUCH EASIER" FOR IRAN AND THE U.S.
TO RESUME TALKS.
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS THREATENED TO BOMB OMAN IF IT, IN HIS WORDS, "GETS IN THE WAY" OF EFFORTS TO REACH A DEAL.
IN GAZA, HOSPITAL OFFICIALS SAY AN ISRAELI STRIKE ON A FISHING SEAPORT KILLED AT LEAST SIX PEOPLE, INCLUDING A CHILD, AND WOUNDED MORE THAN A DOZEN OTHERS.
THIS FOOTAGE FROM OUR "NEWS HOUR" TEAM ON THE GROUND SHOWS BLOOD-STAINED SHOES, SCATTERED CHAIRS, AND DEBRIS LITTERING THE CAFE.
ISRAEL’S MILITARY SAYS IT TARGETED HAMAS COMMANDERS AND SEVERAL OTHER MILITANTS, BUT DID NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE.
IT COMES A DAY AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP’S ENVOY AND SON-IN-LAW, JARED KUSHNER, WRAPPED UP A TRIP TO THE REGION WITH NO MAJOR PROGRESS MADE AFTER TALKS WITH ISRAELI AND HAMAS LEADERS.
UKRAINE LAUNCHED NEARLY 800 DRONES ACROSS RUSSIA OVERNIGHT IN ONE OF ITS LARGEST SUCH ATTACKS SINCE MOSCOW’S INVASION MORE THAN FOUR YEARS AGO.
MOST OF THE DRONES TARGETED THE MOSCOW REGION, WHERE A LOCAL OFFICIAL POSTED THIS IMAGE OF DESTRUCTION AT A LOCAL CONSTRUCTION SITE.
UKRAINE IS INCREASINGLY USING SWARMS OF LONG-RANGE DRONES TO TRY TO OVERWHELM RUSSIAN AIR DEFENSES.
MEANTIME IN NORTHEASTERN UKRAINE, AUTHORITIES SAY AT LEAST 10 PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND MORE THAN A DOZEN INJURED WHEN A RUSSIAN MISSILE STRIKE DESTROYED HOMES AND BUSINESSES.
A RESIDENT WHOSE CAFE WAS HIT DESCRIBED A SCENE OF CHAOS.
YANNA: THERE WAS DUST, SMOKE, SCREAMS, CARS WERE BURNING, SOME GIRLS IN MY CAFE MANAGED TO RUN INTO A BASEMENT.
WE CALLED OUT TO EACH OTHER TO FIND OUT WHO WAS ALIVE, WHO WAS NOT.
SO MANY PEOPLE DIED.
GEOFF: UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY DESCRIBED THAT STRIKE AS A "BRUTAL ATTACK" ON CIVILIANS.
ON WALL STREET TODAY -- STRUGGLING AI STOCKS WEIGHED ON THE BROADER MARKETS.
BY THE CLOSE, THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE WAS DOWN MORE THAN 100 POINTS.
THE NASDAQ FELL BY 1.3%.
THE S&P 500 ENDED LOWER FOR A THIRD STRAIGHT SESSION.
AND ESPN CO-FOUNDER BILL RASMUSSEN HAS DIED.
A SPORTS FAN AND FORMER BROADCASTER HIMSELF, RASMUSSEN, ALONG WITH HIS SON, CAME UP WITH THE IDEA FOR A 24-HOUR CABLE SPORTS CHANNEL IN THE LATE 1970’S.
HOST LEE LEONARD HELPED LAUNCH THE CHANNEL ON SEPTEMBER 7, 1979.
>> FROM FOOTBALL TO SOCCER TO BASEBALL TO BASKETBALL TO TENNIS TO TRACK TO GOLF, WE WILL BE WITH YOU COVERING IT ON ESPN.
GEOFF: RASMUSSEN BECAME KNOWN AS THE "FATHER OF SPORTS TELEVISION" AND WAS INDUCTED INTO THE SPORTS BROADCASTING HALL OF FAME IN 2025.
HE DIED TODAY IN HIS FLORIDA HOME FROM THE EFFECTS OF PARKINSON’S DISEASE.
HE WAS 93 YEARS OLD.
ALSO TODAY, FRANK BEARD, THE ONLY MEMBER OF ZZ TOP WITHOUT THE TRADEMARK FACIAL HAIR, HAS DIED.
♪ FOR MORE THAN FIVE DECADES, BEARD PROVIDED THE PROPELLING BEAT ON HITS LIKE SHARK DRESSED MAN AND GIVE ME ALL YOUR LOVING.
THE TEXAS TRIO STARTED OUT WITH A BLEND OF SOUTHERN ROCK AND BLUES AND WENT ON TO SELL MORE THAN 50 MILLION RECORDS.
HIS PUBLICIST SAID HE DIED TODAY AT HIS RANCH IN TEXAS.
FRANK BEARD WAS 77 YEARS OLD.
STILL TO COME ON THE "NEWS HOUR" -- THE U.S.-SOUTH KOREA ALLIANCE FRAYS AMID PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PRESSURE TO SCALE BACK JOINT MILITARY DRILLS.
WE SPEAK TO A PASTOR RECENTLY FREED FROM A CHINESE PRISON.
AND A NEW EXHIBIT SHOWCASES THE ARTWORK OF A FORMER INMATE TURNED CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACTIVIST.
♪ >> THIS IS THE PBS NEWS HOUR FROM THE DAVID M. RUBENSTEIN STUDIO AT WETA IN WASHINGTON, HEADQUARTERS OF PBS NEWS.
GEOFF: VOTERS HEAD TO THE POLLS TODAY TO VOTE FOR PRIMARY ELECTION CANDIDATES IN ALASKA, FLORIDA, AND WYOMING.
WE’RE TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THEMES EMERGING IN THIS YEAR’S CONTESTS.
FIRST UP, ELECTION DENIERS RUNNING FOR OFFICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AMNA: IN SEVERAL KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES, REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES WHO HAVE QUESTIONED THE LEGITIMACY OF THE 2020 ELECTION ARE ON THE BALLOT.
IF ELECTED TO STATEWIDE OFFICES, LIKE GOVERNOR AND SECRETARY OF STATE, THESE CANDIDATES COULD SHAPE HOW ELECTIONS ARE ADMINISTERED AND CERTIFIED IN THE YEARS AHEAD.
WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT LIZ LANDERS HAS BEEN TRACKING ALL THIS AND JOINS US NOW.
WHO ARE SOME OF THESE ELECTION DENIERS RUNNING IN KEY STATES AND COULD SOME WIND?
LIZ: THE ANSWER IS YES.
STATES DECIDE THE TIME, PLACE, AND MANNER OF CONDUCTING THEIR OWN ELECTIONS, THAT’S WHY WE WANTED TO LOOK AT WHO WAS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR AND SECRETARY OF STATE IN KEY SWING STATES.
IN FIVE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SWING STATES, THERE IS A REPUBLICAN NOMINEE WHO HAS A RECORD OF ELECTION TO NIHILISM.
ANDY BIGGS IN ARIZONA VOTED AGAINST CERTIFYING THE 2020 ELECTION AS A SITTING MEMBER OF CONGRESS.
JOHN JAMES SAID IT WAS RIGGED AND MANIPULATED AGAINST HIMSELF AND DONALD TRUMP.
TOM TIFFANY IN WISCONSIN OBJECTED TO THE 2020 CERTIFICATION FOR ARIZONA AND PENNSYLVANIA.
IN GEORGIA THIS CYCLE WE HAVE RICK JACKSON, HE RAN AGAINST THE CURRENT SECRETARY OF STATE BRAD RAFFENSPERGER, WHO DID CERTIFY THE 2020 ELECTION.
HE RAN IN THAT GUBERNATORIAL PRIMARY AND LIKENED HIM TO JUDAS FOR HIS RESISTANCE TO TRUMP’S PRESSURE TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION RESULTS.
IN PENNSYLVANIA, WE HAVE STACY GARRITY, WHO HAS POINTED TO IRREGULARITIES, SHE SAYS, IN THE 2020 VOTE.
GEORGIA, MICHIGAN, AND ARIZONA ARE ALL STATES WHERE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS SHOWN UP FOR VARIOUS INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE 2020 ELECTION AND ONE MORE STATE I WANT TO MENTION, FLORIDA IS VOTING TODAY, THEY ARE NOT A SWING STATE ANYMORE, BUT THEY DO HAVE THE GUBERNATORIAL LIKELY REPUBLICAN NOMINEE BYRON DONALDS DOES HAVE ELECTION DENIAL HISTORY AND HE WOULD APPOINT THE SECRETARY OF STATE.
AMNA: WHAT ABOUT SOME OF THE DOWN BALLOT RACES, SECRETARY OF STATE THAT ARE MORE DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH ELECTION ADMINISTRATION?
LIZ: TWO OF THESE KEY SWING STATES, ARIZONA AND NEVADA, HAVE REPUBLICAN NOMINEES RIGHT NOW WHO HAVE A HISTORY OF QUESTIONING THE 2020 ELECTION RESULTS.
IN ARIZONA, SOME OF THE ALTERNATE ELECTORS WERE REPRESENTED BY THE CANDIDATE HIMSELF AS AN ATTORNEY.
HE FILED A LAWSUIT TO TRY TO OVERTURN BIDENS ELECTION WIN.
IN NEVADA, JIM MARSH AND HAS BEEN A VOCAL ELECTION DENIER AND HE HAS BEEN CLOSELY DENIED TO THE FOR COLLECTOR SCHEME AND HAS BEEN PHOTOGRAPHED WITH THOSE PEOPLE IN LATE 2020.
ARIZONA IS PARTICULARLY CONCERNING BECAUSE THE SLATE OF REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES ARE ALL ELECTION DENIERS.
ALSO, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL NOMINEE IS AN ELECTION DENIER ALSO.
IF ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES WIN IN NOVEMBER, THEY COULD PLAY A KEY ROLE IN OVERSEEING THE ELECTIONS AND VOTING LAWS IN THAT STATE.
ARIZONA HAS ALSO BEEN A FOCAL POINT OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WITH SECRETARY NOEM VISITING THERE, MAKING A SPEECH ABOUT ELECTION INTEGRITY.
THIS IS NOT A SWING STATE EITHER, BUT NEBRASKA ALSO HAS AN INTERESTING CANDIDATE, A REPUBLICAN, SCOTT PETERSON.
HE HAS ELECTION DENIERS HISTORY HIMSELF AND HAS AMPLIFIED CONSPIRACIES ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION AND HAS QUESTIONED THE VOTING MACHINES IN THAT STATE.
AMNA: WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES WE CAN LOOK BACK ON.
WHAT DID THEY DO ONCE THEY GOT INTO OFFICE?
LIZ: IN TEXAS, GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT, AND FLORIDA GOVERNOR DESANTIS AND IN ALABAMA, GOVERNOR IVEY OF ALL OVERSEEN MID DECADE REDISTRICTING EFFORTS THAT WAS A BIG PUSH THAT HAPPENED.
THERE WERE REPUBLICANS THAT ONE GOVERNORS RACES THAT DID NOT PUSH THOSE KINDS OF POLICIES.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT SECRETARY OF STATE CANDIDATES THAT ONE IN 2022, WES ALLEN IS AN INTERESTING EXAMPLE FROM ALABAMA BECAUSE HE LED THAT STATE TO LEAVE THIS ELECTRONIC VOTER REGISTRATION SYSTEM THAT MOST ELECTION OFFICIALS I’VE TALKED TO HAVE SAID IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR THEM TO CROSS-REFERENCE VOTER REGISTRATION IN THOSE STATES BUT THERE WERE ALSO A NUMBER OF SECRETARY OF STATE CANDIDATES IN 20 LOST.
CHRISTINA CARANO, JIM MARSH AND IN NEVADA, AND JODY HYSON GEORGIA, BUT IF THOSE CANDIDATES AT ONE THEY COULD HAVE HAD A PRETTY BIG IMPACT ON THIS ELECTION CYCLE BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN OVERSEEING THESE.
AMNA: WE HAVE SEEN ELECTION DENIAL BECOME MORE MAINSTREAM IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND WE HAVE SEEN EFFORTS IN CONGRESS TO TRY TO CLARIFY ELECTION CERTIFICATION SO WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE 2020?
LIZ: AFTER JANUARY 6, 2020 ONE, THERE WAS A BIG PUSH IN CONGRESS TO FURTHER CLARIFY WHAT THE ROLE OF CONGRESS IS AND THE ROLE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT IN THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS.
CONGRESS PASSED THE ELECTORAL COUNT REFORM ACT AND TWO POINTS THAT REALLY STICK OUT, THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION HAS MADE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT’S ROLE IN THE ELECTORAL VOTE COUNTING ROLE IS MINISTERIAL, THE VICE PRESIDENT CANNOT REJECT ELECTORS.
THAT WAS SOMETHING PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS PUSHING.
IT ALSO MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO MAKE OBJECTIONS TO STATE ELECTION RESULTS AND THAT IS ANOTHER PART OF WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY THAT SNOWBALL THE INSURRECTION OF THE CAPITAL.
AMNA: LIZ LANDERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GEOFF: VOTERS HEADING TO THE POLLS IN ALASKA TODAY ARE CONSIDERING A BALLOT MEASURE THAT AIMS TO REDUCE THE INFLUENCE OF BIG-MONEY DONORS IN STATE AND LOCAL ELECTIONS.
IT’S PART OF A WIDER NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT MONEY IN POLITICS SPARKED BY A SUPREME COURT DECISION EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT STRUCK DOWN LIMITS ON HOW MUCH POLITICAL PARTIES CAN SPEND IN COORDINATION WITH THEIR CANDIDATES IN NATIONAL ELECTIONS.
FOR MORE, WE ARE JOINED BY DANIEL WEINER, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF THE ELECTIONS AND GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AT THE BRENNAN CENTER FOR JUSTICE.
THANKS FOR COMING IN.
>> PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
GEOFF: WHY HAS CAMPAIGN-FINANCE BECOME A BIG ISSUE IN ALASKA?
>> ALASKA HAS HAD A LONG HISTORY OF LIMITING CAMPAIGN FINANCE.
IT IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT THERE IS A DESIRE TO HAVE LIMITS ON MONEY AND POLITICS IN ALASKA.
GEOFF: HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THAT SUPREME COURT RULING IN THIS ERA OF MASSIVE OUTSIDE SPENDING?
>> I THINK THE BEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE RULING IS PART OF A SERIES OF RULINGS THAT HAVE CHIPPED AWAY AT SAFEGUARDS.
THE MOST FAMOUS RULING WITH CITIZENS UNITED, DECIDED IN 2010, AND THAT HAS BASICALLY ELIMINATED MOST OF THE GUARDRAILS AROUND MONEY IN OUR ELECTIONS.
WHAT WE SEE OF COURSE IS THAT VOTERS DON’T LIKE THIS.
UPWARDS OF 80%, 90% OF VOTERS THINK CORRUPTION IS A BIG PROBLEM.
GEOFF: THERE IS A BRENNAN CENTER POLL THAT FOUND THAT NINE IN 10 VOTERS BELIEVE THAT CORRUPTION IS A BIG PROBLEM IN POLITICS, SO WHY THE DISCONNECT?
>> I MEAN I THINK THIS IS ONE AREA WHERE THE SUPREME COURT IS REALLY IN THE WRONG SET OF PUBLIC OPINION.
POLITICS COSTS MONEY YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET MONEY OUT OF POLITICS BUT THE IDEA THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE SO MUCH MONEY COMING FROM SUCH A TINY NUMBER OF AMERICANS, VOTERS DON’T LIKE THAT, THEY THINK IT BREEDS UNDUE INFLUENCE AND THEY ARE NOT HAPPY, THEY SEE IT AS A TYPE OF CORRUPTION AND YOU SEE THAT IN INITIATIVES LIKE ALASKA VOTERS REALLY WANT TO SEE CHANGE.
GEOFF: WHO BENEFITS THE MOST FROM THAT SUPREME COURT RULING HEADING INTO 2028?
>> I THINK BOTH PARTIES HAVE ADAPTED TO SUPREME COURT RULINGS.
I THINK THIS SPECIFIC RULING THINK REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO BENEFIT MORE, DEMOCRATS ALSO THINK THEY WILL BENEFIT.
I THINK OVER THE LONG TERM BOTH PARTIES TEND TO ADAPT TO FUNDRAISING, THE REAL LOSERS ARE THE VOTERS WHO DON’T LIKE HAVING THEIR ELECTIONS RUN THIS WAY AND OBVIOUSLY ANOTHER BIG BENEFICIARY IS THE INTERESTS THAT CAN AFFORD TO MAKE THESE GIGANTIC CONTRIBUTIONS.
GEOFF: WE ARE ALSO SEEING MORE DARK MONEY IN POLITICS AND GROUPS USING SUPPOSEDLY SUPPORTIVE ADS THAT ACTUALLY HEARD CANDIDATES.
OUR DISCLOSURE LAWS KEEPING PACE WITH HOW CAMPAIGN MONEY IS ACTUALLY BEING SPENT?
>> NO, THEY ARE NOT.
THERE IS MORE AND MORE DARK MONEY IN ELECTIONS AND IT IS BECOMING HARDER TO TRACK.
A LOT OF THESE GROUPS THAT KEEP DONORS SECRET GIVE TWO SUPER PAC’S WHICH SUPPOSEDLY DO DISCLOSE THEIR DONORS BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT, THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL WHO IS BEHIND THE GROUP.
SO WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE SECRET MONEY WHICH IS ANOTHER THING VOTERS ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT.
85% WANTED TO SEE MORE TRANSPARENCY IN ELECTIONS.
GEOFF: WE HAVE SEEN BIG SPENDERS LOSE THIS YEAR.
HALEY STEVENS DESPITE THIS HUGE SPENDING ADVANTAGE, DOES MONEY MATTER LESS THAN WE THINK?
>> THAT SUCH A GREAT QUESTION, I THINK IT MATTERS.
IT DOESN’T MEAN THERE IS A ONE-TO-ONE CORRESPONDENCE OF DOLLARS TO VOTES.
MOST CANDIDATES THINK THEY NEED ENOUGH MONEY, THEY DON’T NECESSARILY NEED MORE MONEY IN THERE CERTAINLY ARE DIMINISHING RETURNS.
YOU HAVE SEEN CANDIDATES TO GET OUTSPENT.
I WOULD SAY VICTORIOUS CANDIDATES GENERALLY DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO COMPETE.
IT IS NOT THAT IT IS IRRELEVANT BUT IT CAN BE AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION TO SAY WHOEVER HAS THE MOST MONEY IS GOING TO WIN.
GEOFF: DANIEL WEINER AT THE BRENNAN CENTER FOR JUSTICE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
♪ GEOFF: PRESIDENT TRUMP IS PUTTING NEW STRAIN ON ONE OF AMERICA’S CLOSEST MILITARY ALLIANCES AND RAISING BROADER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE U.S.
NOW EXPECTS FROM ITS ALLIES.
THE PRESIDENT HAS ORDERED THE PENTAGON TO SUBSTANTIALLY SCALE BACK JOINT MILITARY EXERCISES WITH SOUTH KOREA, CITING THEIR COST, HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH NORTH KOREAN LEADER KIM JONG UN, AND SEOUL’S REFUSAL TO JOIN THE U.S.
EFFORT AGAINST IRAN.
>> ALL I WANT IS FAIRNESS AND SOUTH KOREA, I GET ALONG WITH THEM VERY WELL, BUT WE CAN’T GO AROUND AND PROTECT ALL OF THESE COUNTRIES ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE NOT THERE TO HELP US.
GEOFF: THE ANNUAL DRILLS ARE A CORNERSTONE OF THE DECADES-OLD ALLIANCE, INTENDED TO PREPARE AMERICAN AND SOUTH KOREAN FORCES FOR A POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH THE NUCLEAR-ARMED NORTH.
MR.
TRUMP’S DECISION HAS PROMPTED FRESH QUESTIONS IN SEOUL ABOUT AMERICA’S RELIABILITY AS A SECURITY PARTNER.
PRESIDENT LEE RESPONDED EARLIER TODAY -- >> A STRONG SOUTH KOREA-U.S.
ALLIANCE AND STRENGTHENING OUR INDEPENDENT DEFENSE CAPABILITIES ARE MUTUALLY REINFORCING.
A STRONG ALLIANCE MAKES THE FOUNDATION OF SECURITY STRONGER AND STRENGTHENS OUR OWN CAPABILITIES, INCREASING OUR NECESSITY AS AN ALLY.
GEOFF: THE DISPUTE IS THE LATEST EXAMPLE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP TAKING A MORE TRANSACTIONAL APPROACH TO TRADITIONAL ALLIANCES, PRESSING PARTNERS NOT JUST TO SPEND MORE ON THEIR OWN DEFENSE, BUT TO SUPPORT U.S.
PRIORITIES ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD.
FOR MORE, WE’RE JOINED NOW BY RETIRED REAR ADMIRAL MARK MONTGOMERY.
HE HAD 32-YEAR CAREER IN THE U.S.
NAVY, SERVED ON THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL STAFF, AND LATER AS POLICY DIRECTOR ON STAFF OF THE SENATE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE.
HE’S NOW A SENIOR FELLOW AT THE FOUNDATION FOR DEFENSE OF DEMOCRACIES.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
GEOFF: PRESIDENT TRUMP LINKING MILITARY SUPPORT AND SOUTH KOREA WITH NOT THINKING OF -- WITH SOUTH KOREA NOT SUPPORTING THE U.S.
OPERATION IN IRAN.
>> THIS IS REALLY UNUSUAL.
I THINK THE UNITED STATES HAS ALWAYS SAID ONE OF OUR GREATEST STRENGTHS ARE OUR ALLIES AND PARTNERS.
WE SHOULD BE LEVERAGING THEM, NOT PUNISHING THEM.
IN THIS CASE SOUTH KOREA HAS A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE TO FACING NORTH KOREA.
NORTH KOREA IS GETTING STRONGER AND MORE POWERFUL BECAUSE OF ITS RELATIONSHIP TO RUSSIA.
SOUTH KOREA IS REALLY TRAPPED ON THE PENINSULA WORRIED ABOUT NORTH KOREA.
I THINK IT’S VERY INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE PRESIDENT TO TRANSACTIONALLY PLACE SOUTH KOREA IN EXTREMIS FOR THEIR FAILURE TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS IN IRAN.
GEOFF: WHAT IS THE THROUGH-LINE?
DO YOU SEE AN IDENTIFIABLE STRATEGY YOURS THIS BEING DRIVEN BY THE PRESIDENT’S RELATIONSHIPS, GRIEVANCES, PREFERENCES, AND INSTINCTS?
>> I WOULD SAY YES, YES, YES, AND YES.
HE ACTUALLY DID THIS IN 2019 AS WELL.
HE BELIEVES HE HAS THIS PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH AUTHORITARIAN LEADERS AND HE CAN SOMEHOW CHANGE THEM.
KIM JONG-UN IS NOT GOING TO GIVE UP HIS NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
HE’S NOT GOING TO COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT AND THE PRESIDENT IS NOT GOING TO GET A NOBEL PRIZE NEGOTIATING A BIG DEAL WITH NORTH KOREA AND WHAT HE IS REALLY DOING IS WORKING WITH ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE AXIS OF AGGRESSORS THAT IS CHALLENGING THE UNITED STATES AROUND THE WORLD, WHETHER IN CHINA WITH TAIWAN OR RUSSIA WITH UKRAINE AND EASTERN EUROPE OR NORTH KOREA AND SOUTH KOREA.
HE IS REALLY TRYING TO WORK WITH THE OTHER TEAM AND NOT WITH HIS ALLIES AND PARTNERS IN SOUTH KOREA AND JAPAN.
GEOFF: I WANT TO RETURN TO THIS WERE TRANSACTIONAL.
HOW DO YOU DISTINGUISH BETWEEN EFFECTIVE BURDEN SHARING AND AN ALLIANCE BECOMING TRANSACTIONAL?
>> LET’S BE CLEAR, THE PRESIDENT WAS CORRECTED HIS CRITICISM OF EUROPE AND EVEN JAPAN, TAIWAN, KOREA, THEY WERE NOT SPENDING ENOUGH ON DEFENSE.
PARTICULARLY IN EUROPE THEY WERE DOWN BELOW 2% ANNOY AVERAGE BEFORE HE STARTED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AND THEY HAVE CHANGED MOSTLY BECAUSE OF PUTIN’S INVASION OF UKRAINE AND INVESTMENT.
HE HAS ACHIEVED SOMETHING.
NOT EVERYTHING IS CAN BE VIEWED THROUGH THE PRISM OF YOU SUPPORT ME HERE AND I WILL SUPPORT YOU THERE.
HIS THREATENING OF GREENLAND, HIS DISINVESTMENT FROM UKRAINE, THEY REALLY SEND A STRONG SIGNAL THAT THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A CREDIBLE PARTNER IN EUROPE FOR EXAMPLE.
THIS DROPPING OUT OF THESE CRITICAL EXERCISES THAT DRIVE U.S.
AND KOREAN FORCE READINESS SENDS A STRONG SIGNAL THAT WE ARE NOT A CREDIBLE PARTNER TO SOUTH KOREA, JAPAN, AND TAIWAN, THERE WAS A REAL RISK IN THE TRANSACTIONAL APPROACH THAT FAR EXCEEDS THE BENEFIT OF THEM SPENDING A LITTLE BIT MORE ON DEFENSE.
GEOFF: WHAT IS TRYING TO LEARN FROM TENSION BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND ITS ASIAN ALLIES?
>> CHINA IS LEARNING WE ARE EASY TO DISTRACT, WE HAVE BEEN DISTRACTED IN EUROPE AND UKRAINE AND CREATED BAD RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND ITS EUROPEAN ALLIES.
WE HAVE BEEN DISTRACTED IN THE MIDDLE EAST, WE ARE USING OUR MUNITIONS UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
CHINA IS LEARNING THAT THE UNITED STATES CAN’T DEAL WITH TO THEATER SIMULTANEOUSLY.
THE GEORGE WASHINGTON CARRIER STRIKE GROUP IS LEAVING THE END OF PACIFIC TO GO TO THE MIDDLE EAST AND WE WILL BE WITH BASICALLY A DESTROYER OR TWO THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE WESTERN PACIFIC SO IF CHINA WERE IN A POSITION TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT WHICH I’M NOT SURE THEY ARE AT THE MOMENT BUT IF THEY WERE THEY COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE.
IT IS A REALLY STRONG NEGATIVE DETERRENT SIGNAL THAT WE ARE UNABLE TO HANDLE TO THEATER SIMULTANEOUSLY.
GEOFF: THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN HAS SPENT AN ENORMOUS TIME AT SEA.
WHAT DOES NEARLY NINE MONTHS WITHOUT A PORT VISIT MEAN FOR THE SAILORS, THE SHIP, AND ITS OVERALL READINESS?
>> IT IS HARD.
THE COMMAND CARRIER STRIKE GROUP I LED WAS 4.5 MONTHS.
IN NINE MONTHS DEPLOYMENT IS HARD ON THE CREW.
THEY HAVE HAD 250 DAYS BETWEEN PORT VISITS.
ON TOP OF THAT, THEY HAD NO END DATE.
THAT IS THE KILLER IN TERMS OF ANGST.
WHEN THEY CAN RESOLVE THEIR PROBLEM, I’M GLAD ADMIRAL BRAD COOPER STEPPED UP AND PUT AN END DATE TO THIS.
THAT IS THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP YOU EXPECT FROM THE MILITARY, NOT THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP THAT WE GOT FROM THE PRESIDENT WHO MINIMIZED THE IMPACT ON THE SHIP.
I’M NOT SURE HE REALLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT NINE MONTHS IN LIMITED LIVING SPACES ARE FOR JUNIOR ENLISTED FOLKS.
IT IS NOT COMFORTABLE AND IT IS STRESSFUL.
GEOFF: WHAT DOES IT SIGNAL MORE BROADLY ABOUT THE DEMANDS BEING PLACED ON THE U.S.
MILITARY RIGHT NOW?
>> THAT’S THE REAL KEY HERE.
IF THIS WHERE WE ARE DOING BLOCKADE OPS, PROTECTING TO CARRIER STRIKE GROUPS, MAINTAINING A DEFENSE OF ISRAEL WITH BALLISTIC MISSILE ASSETS BOTH AT SEA AND SHORE AND EXTRA FIGHTER SQUADRONS TO POTENTIALLY DO ATTACKS, WE ARE REALLY STRESSING THE MILITARY.
ANOTHER 6-8 MONTHS OF THIS AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MASSIVE READINESS BATHTUB WERE 18 MONTHS OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW OUR FIGHTER SQUADRON READINESS IS DOWN AROUND 30%, WE ARE UNABLE TO DEPLOY AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH DESTROYERS AT SEA, ENOUGH ARMY BALLISTIC MISSILE SYSTEMS.
THE SYSTEMS IN IRAN, IF YOU HAVE A READINESS DECLINE IN THOSE, A SIGNIFICANT ONE, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE READY FOR CONFLICT WITH JUST ONE OPPONENT INTO HER THREE YEARS AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THESE LONG, 12-18 MONTH DEPLOYMENT SPANS WE ARE LOOKING AT TOTAL FOR THE FORCED TO DEAL WITH THIS IRAN ISSUE.
GEOFF: RETIRED REAR ADMIRAL MARK MONTGOMERY, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
GEOFF: AND A NOTE THAT WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE ON U.S.
RELATIONS WITH ITS HISTORIC ALLIES TOMORROW AT ONE OF THE PROGRAM.
AMNA: IT DOESN’T HAVE SHARP TEETH OR CLAWS, BUT THE BITE OF THE SMALL MOSQUITO KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER ANIMAL ON EARTH.
AND, AS THE CLIMATE WARMS, MOSQUITO SEASON IS LASTING LONGER, GIVING THEM MORE TIME TO SPREAD DANGEROUS DISEASES.
BEN TRACY WITH "CLIMATE CENTRAL" REPORTS ON WHY THE INSECTS ARE THRIVING AND THE SURPRISING WAY SCIENTISTS ARE FIGHTING BACK.
BEN: IT IS DELIVERY DAY IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY EAST OF LOS ANGELES.
CAN TRISTEN’S LATEST SHIPMENT.
IS NOT SOMETHING YOU NORMALLY FIND IN A BOX.
>> WHAT I’M LISTENING FOR IS THE SOUND OF SIX HUNDRED ADULTS FLYING AROUND.
BEN: A PRETTY GOOD CLUE AS TO WHAT IS INSIDE.
WHAT IS IN THE TUBE?
>> INSIDE THIS TUBE IS 600 MALE MOSQUITOES THAT WE JUST RECEIVED OVERNIGHT FROM KENTUCKY.
BEN: HE OVERSEES SCIENTIFIC PROGRAMS FOR THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT.
DO LIKE MOSQUITOES?
>> I ENJOY WORKING WITH THEM, BUT I LIKE TO KILL THEM.
[LAUGHTER] BEN: HE IS TARGETING INVASIVE MOSQUITOES THAT CAN SPREAD DISEASES INCLUDING ZIKA, WEST NILE VIRUS, AND DENGUE FEVER.
>> YIKES, THERE THEY COME.
BEN: THEY ARE RELEASING 30,000 MOSQUITOES EVERY WEEK CONTAINING A BACTERIA THAT HELPS A BACTERIA THAT HELPS BLOCK DISEASE TRANSMISSION.
>> IN TOTAL WE ARE GOING TO BE RELEASING JUST UNDER HALF A MILLION MOSQUITOES.
BEN: HOW EFFECTIVE IS THIS?
>> WE ARE HOPING TO FIND OUT.
PREVIOUS STUDIES HAVE SEEN 80% TO 90% CONTROL REDUCTION IN THE AREA.
BEN: CLIMATE CENTRAL FOUND NEARLY 95% OF THE CITIES THAT ANALYZED NOW HAVE MORE DAYS EACH YEAR SUITABLE FOR SOME OF THE MOST COMMON SPECIES OF MOSQUITOES TO SPREAD DISEASE.
18 MORE DAYS ON AVERAGE THAN IN THE EARLY 1970’S.
>> WHAT WE USED TO REFER TO AS MOSQUITO SEASON WE WOULD SAY MAY TO SEPTEMBER, BUT NOW WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS TREATED ALL SEASON LONG.
BEN: FOR THESE RELEASES, THEY DON’T NEED BUG SPRAY.
I DON’T SEE ANY BITES ON YOUR ARMS.
BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL MALE MOSQUITOES AND MALES DON’T BITE.
>> I TELL PEOPLE IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE HUMAN SPECIES.
IT IS THE FEMALES THAT CAUSE TROUBLE IN THE MOSQUITO WORLD.
BEN: PROFESSOR STEPHEN DOBSON SUPPLIES THOSE MOSQUITOES, PRESIDENT OF MOSQUITO MATE IN LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY.
>> YELLOW FEVER IS A REALLY NASTY.
BEN: HIS TEAM BREEDS THIS SPECIFIC SPECIES IN THE LAB AND SHIPS THEM TO CONTROL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THESE MALES CARRY A NATURALLY OCCURRING BACTERIA WHICH MAKES THEM INCOMPATIBLE WITH FEMALES THEY TRIED TO MATE WITH.
>> AND WHEN THEY DO, THOSE FEMALES ARE STERILE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES, THEY LAY EGGS AND THEY DON’T HATCH.
THEN THE POPULATION GOES DOWN.
BEN: ARE THESE THINGS GENETICALLY MODIFIED?
>> THEY ARE NOT.
WE ARE MOVING THE BACTERIUM FROM ONE MOSQUITO TO ANOTHER.
BEN: THIS APPROACH CAN DO THIS IN OTHER AREAS INCLUDING IN BRAZIL WHERE THEY PRODUCE THESE MOSQUITOES 110 MILLION EACH WEEK.
SOME HAVE SEEN DENGUE FEVER CASES FALL BY 80%.
CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT JUST MAKING MOSQUITO SEASONS LONGER IT IS EXPANDING THEIR RANGE.
>> THE GENERAL TREND IS MOVING NORTHWARD.
>> OVERALL, TEMPERATURES ARE GOING UP IN THE ATMOSPHERE IS BECOMING WETTER.
IS THAT A GOOD THING FOR MOSQUITOES?
>> FOR THESE MOSQUITOES, UNFORTUNATELY S. IT IS A NICE, WARM, HUMID ENVIRONMENT.
BEN: TRISTON SAYS IF HIS TRAPS CATCH FEWER DISEASE CARRYING FEMALES THIS SUMMER HE WILL KNOW THE BOY BUGS ARE DOING THEIR JOB.
>> AS LONG AS WE ARE NOT SEEING FEMALES RE-COLLECTED IN THIS TRAP, WE KNOW WE ARE SEEING A REDUCTION IN THE POPULATION IN THIS AREA.
BEN: I’M BEN TRACY WITH CLIMATE CENTRAL FOR THE PBS NEWS HOUR.
♪ GEOFF: CHINA RECENTLY TOOK A RARE STEP, RELEASING A DETAINEE AT THE REQUEST OF THE U.S.
HE WAS ONE OF DOZENS OF CHRISTIANS TARGETED BY THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY.
IT ONLY ALLOWS AUTHORIZED CHURCHES TO SERVE CHINA’S ESTIMATED 80 MILLION CHRISTIANS.
HE IS NOW FREE AFTER A PERSONAL REQUEST BY PRESIDENT TRUMP TO CHINESE LEADER XI JINPING.
HE AND HIS DAUGHTER SPOKE TO NICK SCHIFRIN WHO BEGINS HIS STORY IN BEIJING.
NICK: ON THE SIXTH FLOOR OF A BEIJING APARTMENT BUILDING, AN UNMARKED DOOR.
>> NIHAO, HELLO.
NICK: INSIDE, A SECRET CHURCH, FOR THOSE PROHIBITED FROM PRAYING IN PUBLIC.
♪ IT’S 2019 AND XU YONGHAI WAS THE PASTOR OF THE HOLY LOVE FELLOWSHIP.
A CONGREGATION OF CHINA’S MOST VULNERABLE CHRISTIANS -- CRITICS OF THE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT.
♪ HIS SANCTUARY -- ALSO HIS APARTMENT AND BEDROOM.
THERE WAS A GOOD REASON FOR SECRECY.
IN 2014, HE AND HIS ENTIRE PARISH WERE DETAINED.
>> 2018, CHINA DETAINED ZIONS LEADER AND THE CHURCH WAS FORCED TO GO VIRTUAL WHICH MENTOR GREW DRAMATICALLY TO MORE THAN 10,000 WORSHIPERS ACROSS 40 CITIES.
LAST YEAR, BEIJING SECURITY OFFICIALS CAME FOR ZION AGAIN, DETAINING CHURCH LEADERS DURING A RETREAT FOR ELDERLY CHURCH MEMBERS.
IT WAS ONE OF BEIJING’S LARGEST EVER CRACKDOWN ON CHRISTIANS, INCLUDING THE PASTOR’S SECOND ATTENTION.
>> I THINK HE IS GIVING VERY SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO THE PASTOR.
NICK: IN MAY, PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD UP -- TOLD REPORTERS HE HAD BROUGHT UP THE CASE WAS XI JINPING AND THEN LAST MONTH AFTER 266 DAYS IN DETENTION, HE WAS FREED INTO THE EMBRACE OF HIS DAUGHTER GRACE WHO HADN’T SEEN HIM BECAUSE HE WAS BANNED FROM LEAVING CHINA MORE THAN FIVE YEARS AGO.
I SPOKE TO THEM IN OUR STUDIO LAST MONTH.
>> WHEN I SAW HIM I DIDN’T RECOGNIZE HIM.
WE HADN’T SEEN EACH OTHER THE LAST SIX YEARS FOR ME.
IT IS JUST INCREDIBLE.
WHEN I FIRST HEARD IN OCTOBER WE WERE LIKE DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS, WE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
WE WERE COMPETING OR TRYING TO HAVE THE SECOND MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD TO CHANGE THEIR POLICIES OR CHANGE THEIR DECISIONS AND THAT SEEMED IMPOSSIBLE, THAT SEEMED SO INSURMOUNTABLE.
NICK: CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT YOUR DETENTION?
WHAT WERE THE CONDITIONS?
>> THE CONDITIONS WERE OBVIOUSLY VERY BAD.
THE FOOD AND 30 OR SO PEOPLE LIVING IN A TIGHT SPACE, THERE ISN’T ANY FREEDOM, WE JUST SIT ON A STOOL, WE NEED TO RAISE OUR HANDS TO ASK FOR PERMISSION TO WALK AROUND.
ALL MY COMMUNICATIONS WERE CUT OFF.
NICK: WHEN BEIJING POLICE TARGETED ZION, THEY CHARGED PARISHIONERS AND PASTOR JIN WITH ILLEGALLY USING INFORMATION NETWORKS.
BEIJING PROSECUTED THEM FOR OPERATING AN ILLEGAL BUSINESS AND FRAUD.
THERE ARE CHINESE GOVERNMENT APPROVED MINISTRIES THAT DISPLAY BANNERS LIKE THIS ONE, IMPLEMENT THE BASIC DIRECTION OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY’S RELIGIOUS WORK.
CHINESE PRESIDENT XI JINPING HAS LONG DESCRIBED MINORITIES AND THEIR CULTURES AND RELIGIONS AS THREATS TO THE STABILITY OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY IN THE COUNTRY.
IT IS NOT ONLY CHRISTIANS.
IN 2017, BEIJING SET UP WHAT ACTIVISTS CALLED CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR MUSLIM UIGHURS.
ONE OF THE LAST DAY OF THE FIRST TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THE U.S.
ACCUSED BEIJING OF GENOCIDE.
>> CHINESE SOCIETY AS A TOTALITARIAN SOCIETY, THEREFORE THE PARTY IS IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING.
ETHNIC MINORITIES AND VARIOUS RELIGIONS AND INTELLECTUALS ARE FACING HUGE PRESSURE IN CHINA, EVEN OPPRESSION.
NICK: DO YOU BELIEVE THAT YOUR RELEASE WAS THE PRODUCT OF A PERSONAL APPEAL BY PRESIDENT TRUMP TO XI JINPING?
>> OF COURSE.
ONLY IF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT SAID SOMETHING PERSONALLY THIS WOULD HAPPEN.
NICK: TODAY, EIGHT ZION CHURCH LEADERS REMAIN IMPRISONED.
BEIJING VOWS TO PUT THEM ON TRIAL, A FATE GRACE DREXEL FEARED FOR HER AND HER FATHER.
THIS PAST MAY, SHE HELPED LEAD A WASHINGTON, D.C.
RALLY CALLING FOR BEIJING TO RELEASE ITS PRISONERS.
HER FATHER’S WAS ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS DETAINED, SHE WAS PREGNANT.
>> I TOLD MY FATHER A WEEK BEFORE THAT WE WERE PREGNANT.
AND THEN MY FATHER HAS BEEN DETAINED THIS WHOLE TIME AND NOW THE BABY IS ABOUT TO BE BORN AND HE IS STILL DETAINED.
MY FATHER’S SITUATION, WE WERE LOOKING AT VERY EASILY 15 YEARS IN PRISON, SO IN MY MIND IF MY FATHER WAS IN THERE FOR 15 YEARS AND WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SEE HIM, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIM, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE END OF, HE KNEW THAT I WAS PREGNANT.
I WAS ABLE TO TELL HIM ABOUT THAT A WEEK BEFORE HE WAS ARRESTED, BUT WE WERE STILL FIRST TRIMESTER AND WE WERE NOT SURE ABOUT WHETHER THE TREMENDOUS PRESSURE WE WERE ALSO GOING THROUGH, WHETHER THE BABY WOULD COME BE WITH US.
NICK: BUT THE BABY IS WITH THEM, HIS NAME IS EZRA, NAMED FOR HIS GRANDFATHER.
>> SO INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL AND SO INCREDIBLY I’M WITHOUT WORDS.
I DON’T REALLY KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN THIS OVERWHELMING OPPORTUNITY OR JOY OR MIRACLE THAT WE HAVE SEEN.
NICK: IT’S VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU, ISN’T IT, TO BE WITH YOUR GRANDSON?
>> YES.
NICK: WHAT CHANGE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN CHINA?
FOR YOUR GRANDSON’S GENERATION?
>> I THINK THAT MANY IMPRISONED CHRISTIANS LOVE THEIR COUNTRY AND MOTHERLAND.
I HOPE IN CHINA’S FUTURE PEOPLE CAN WORSHIP GOD WITHOUT FEAR.
NICK: BUT THERE IS STILL FEAR AND CHINESE CHRISTIANS OFTEN HAVE TO HIDE THEIR FAITH.
FOR THE PBS NEWS HOUR, I’M NICK SCHIFRIN.
♪ AMNA: HIS WORK IS NOW SHOWN IN MAJOR MUSEUMS AND GALLERIES.
BUT JESSE KRIMES CREATED SOME OF HIS FIRST ARTWORK IN PRISON.
GEOFF: FOLLOWING HIS RELEASE, HE’S ALSO BECOME A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THE FORMERLY INCARCERATED AND FOR REFORMING THE OVERALL SYSTEM OF MASS INCARCERATION.
SENIOR ARTS CORRESPONDENT JEFFREY BROWN REPORTS FROM PHILADELPHIA FOR OUR "ART IN ACTION" SERIES EXPLORING THE ROLE OF ART IN DEMOCRACY, PART OF OUR "CANVAS" COVERAGE.
JEFFREY: A CORRECTIONAL FACILITY IN PHILADELPHIA.
A MURAL HIGH ON A CITY WALL.
A QUILT HANGING IN A DOWNTOWN MUSEUM.
ALL WITH A COMMON NAME -- "RIVERSIDE" -- AND ALL CONNECTED BY ARTIST JESSE KRIMES.
JESSE: THE CONNECTION FOR ME PERSONALLY IS HOW TO BE A CONDUIT.
HOW DO I CREATE THINGS OUT IN THE WORLD THAT CAN HELP AMPLIFY OR MAKE VISIBLE OR CREATE NEW NARRATIVES AND WAYS OF SEEING AND THINKING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE QUITE LITERALLY HIDDEN BEHIND WALLS?
JEFFREY: THEY’VE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE COMMUNITY.
JESSE: RIGHT.
JEFFREY: AT PHILADELPHIA’S FABRIC WORKSHOP AND MUSEUM, HIS LATEST IS TITLED ELEGY QUILTS WHICH HE BEGAN DURING THE PANDEMIC.
EACH QUILT IS A KIND OF PORTRAIT OF AN INCARCERATED INDIVIDUAL, BUT WITHOUT THE ACTUAL PERSON, OTHER THAN PIECES OF HIS OR HER CLOTHING OR BEDSHEETS THAT WERE SENT TO KRIMES.
JESSE: UP THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE BUTTON FROM A SHIRT.
AND SO THIS ENTIRE STRIPED TREE IS ACTUALLY FROM A BUTTON-UP SHIRT THAT SOMEONE HAD GIVEN ME.
JEFFREY: ALSO MISSING -- THE PRISON.
INSTEAD, KRIMES ASKED PEOPLE TO SEND HIM A FAVORITE MEMORY OF HOME, AN ANIMAL THEY LOVE.
HE THEN CREATED A SCENE AND AN ABSENCE.
YOU WANTED US TO SEE SOMETHING OTHER.
JESSE: YES.
THE VIEWER SENSES SOME KIND OF ABSENCE.
LIKE WHY ARE ALL THESE EMPTY CHAIRS OR EMPTY BEDS OR EMPTY BATHTUBS OR -- SO, LIKE, YOU GET A SENSE OF THAT LOSS.
JEFFREY: KRIMES TAUGHT HIMSELF TO SEW AND QUILT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PROJECT.
THE GOAL, AS WITH MUCH OF HIS WORK -- JESSE: CHALLENGING JUST THESE KIND OF DAMAGING, HARMFUL NARRATIVES THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR A VERY LONG TIME AROUND THE STIGMA OF PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO HAVE MADE A MISTAKE AND END UP BEHIND PRISON WALLS.
BECAUSE FOR ME, SOME OF THE MOST AMAZING PEOPLE I’VE EVER MET IN MY LIFE WERE BEHIND THOSE WALLS.
JEFFREY: BETWEEN 2001 AND 2013, KRIMES -- AND THAT IS HIS REAL NAME -- SPENT NEARLY EIGHT YEARS IN STATE AND FEDERAL PRISONS ON NON-VIOLENT DRUG CHARGES.
AN ONLY CHILD BORN TO A 16-YEAR-OLD, SINGLE MOTHER, GROWING UP IN RURAL LANCASTER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, AND OFTEN LEFT ALONE, HE SAYS MAKING THINGS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PLACE OF SAFETY, SOMETHING HE COULD CALL HIS OWN.
LATER, HE WOULD STUDY AT THE TYLER SCHOOL OF ART AND THEN MILLERSVILLE UNIVERSITY IN PENNSYLVANIA.
BUT FROM HIS TEENS ON, HE WAS IN AND OUT OF TROUBLE, CAPPED BY A FEDERAL DRUG CHARGE AND, WHILE AWAITING SENTENCING, NEARLY A YEAR IN SOLITARY, PUNISHMENT HE SAYS WAS MEANT TO COERCE HIM TO GIVE INFORMATION ON OTHERS, WHICH HE REFUSED.
JESSE: LITERALLY EVERY PART OF MY IDENTITY OUT IN THE WORLD HAS BEEN REMOVED, BUT I REALIZED THERE WAS ONE THING THEY COULDN’T TAKE FROM ME AND THAT WAS MY ABILITY TO CREATE AND ACTUALLY MAKE SOMETHING THAT HIS MIND, THAT GAVE ME AUTONOMY AND SO I JUST DECIDED FROM THAT MOMENT IT WILL KNOW THAT NO MATTER WHAT TIME I GOT AS A SENTENCE, I WAS GOING TO USE EVERY MINUTE AND EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY TO MAKE SOMETHING POSITIVE IN THE WORLD AND THAT WAS MY ARTWORK.
JEFFREY: HE MADE WORKS THAT HAVE BEEN EXHIBITED AT THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART ALTERING MATERIALS IN PRISON.
HE USED BEDSHEETS AND HAIR GELS.
IN PURGATORY 2009, PLAYING CARDS, PRISON ISSUED BARS OF SOAP, AND MUGSHOTS CREATING PEACE BY PEACEFUL HE WOULD LATER ON THE OUTSIDE ASSEMBLE INTO A LARGE WORK.
I WOULD BUY THEM NEW DECKS OF CARDS AND I WOULD CUT OFF THE FACES OF THE KINGS, AND QUEENS AND GLUE THEM TOGETHER TO CREATE A CONTAINER THAT I WOULD THEN HOW IS THE SOAP SIN AND THE MUGSHOT OF THE OFFENDER WHERE THE ROYALTY WAS AND COVER IT UP AND PUT THEM IN ENVELOPES AND SNEAK THEM OUT OF THE PRISON.
JEFFREY: YOU MUST HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED THEY WERE IN THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART SOMETIME LATER.
JESSE: I WAS QUITE SURPRISED.
JEFFREY: RELEASED IN 2014 HE HAS COMBINED HIS OWN ART MAKING WITH ADVOCACY FOR OTHERS AIMED AT SUPPORTING AND EXHIBITING FORMERLY INCARCERATED ARTISTS.
WHILE ALSO CALLING ATTENTION TO WHAT HE SEES AS A BRUTAL SYSTEM OF MASS INCARCERATION.
ONE HE SAYS MAKES ALL OF US LESS SAFE.
JESSE: WE ARE PUTTING THEM BEHIND PRISON NOT FOR REHABILITATION BUT FOR STORAGE, OFTEN FOR DECADES, THEN THOSE PEOPLE EVENTUALLY GET RELEASED AND COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND THERE IS NO SUPPORT SYSTEMS, THERE IS NO MENTAL HEALTH, THERE IS NO WELLNESS, THERE IS NO REAL PROGRAMS, THERE ARE NO PROGRAMS INSIDE OR OUTSIDE TO SUPPORT THE TRANSITION AND YOU ARE ENSURING YOU HAVE FUTURE VICTIMS.
JEFFREY: AT 43, HE CONTINUES TO WORK WITH MURAL ARTS PHILADELPHIA DEDICATED TO PUBLIC ART OF ALL KINDS INCLUDING ARTS PROGRAMS INSIDE AND OUT OF LOCAL CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES.
THE ELEGY QUILTS EXHIBITION FEATURES A SERIES OF SMALL COLLAGES MADE BY FORMERLY INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS WHO JOINED IN WORKSHOPS WITH HIM.
AGAIN PROMPTED TO THINK ABOUT PLACES OF COMFORT.
>> I COULDN’T, IT JUST POPPED OUT TO ME AT THE END OF CUTTING OUR PICTURES IN MAGAZINES AND ALL OF THESE THINGS.
IT IS MORE SO MY LIFE WAS LIKE A BIG JUMBLE OF GOOD AND BAD.
I JUST FELT LIKE ME BEING THE CENTERPIECE, IT CREATED THIS SPACE FOR WHO I WAS BECOMING.
JEFFREY: JESSE KRIMES TOOK VARIOUS IMAGES AND PUT THEM INTO THE QUILT TITLED RIVERSIDE.
HIS OWN LIFE EXPERIENCE HE SAYS CONTINUES TO COMPEL HIS ART AS WELL AS HIS ADVOCACY.
BUT I ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE VICTIMS OF CRIMES OR THEIR LOVED ONES WHO MAY NOT ALWAYS GET A SECOND CHANCE TO TURN AROUND THEIR LIVES.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE LIKE THAT?
JESSE: I DON’T CLAIM TO HAVE THOSE ANSWERS, EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO THINK AND FEEL HOW THEY WANT ON THIS ISSUE BUT FOR ME PERSONALLY, I WANT TO HAVE THE SPACE TO HEAL AND I WANT TO CREATE THE SPACE FOR OTHERS TO HEAL.
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